proof of disbelief

i just had this argument with one of john's friends who was trying to prove to all of us that god exists by reasoning of deduction. he was basically trying to take everyone's beliefs and prove that their beliefs are flawed and therefore are invalid..thus concluding that his belief in god is the only clear truth in this world. he was using a logic to try and prove that god exists. he's also a philosophy major so he was really big into really complicated logic/reasoning stuff. every time he made a statement trying to prove that by deduction god exists, he would digress into something completely arbitrary to the point...which did not prove that god exists.

i came in from the stand point that his logic can be correct and that it is possible for him to convince us through logic that god exists but that does not conclude that in REALITY god exists. there is a possibility that although he believes that god exists and he can convince us that go exists, that there is a possibility that god does not exist.

i actually got him to say that that was possibility. score 1 for me. score 0 for him.

i never understand why people try to prove to other people that god exists. why can't they just stick to faith based reasoning. "i believe in god because i believe in god." i buy that. i accept that. i will never try to disprove to anyone their belief in god. but when they go about saying things like "i can prove to you that god exists," they actually harm their own credibility...and they end up looking like asses.

ah well. i was supposed to head to bed early but now its 4am. i guess i just can't walk away from a philosophical debate... its just so rare these days. people at UT are so indifferent to their own religion that its never been an issue. and i normally don't bother unless someone challenges me.